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Dust Tactics
A tactical miniatures board game in the world of Dust
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Axis "LASER-JAGDGRENADIERE" (Card)
Published on 19 October 2012 - 14:45:15
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Reply #31 | Published on 29 October 2012 - 11:40:48

The Blackhawk is less problematic than the Hot Dog, in my opinon. Sure, Blackhawk is crap, but at least it's cheap crap. The Hot Dog has potential, but it's too hard to use effectively, which makes it not worth the high cost.

Suck my Mickey

Reply #32 | Published on 29 October 2012 - 13:10:16
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TallDwarf said:

golem101 said:

 

The only walker that has been sent to the scrapyard is the Blackhawk, deemed a complete waste of points. Even the Loth pops up sometimes, and once managed to almost waste a Punisher all by itself!

 

 

Has anyone made up some house rules to make the Blackhawk more tempting to use? Its a shame to have a walker that no one will ever choose.

I guess the thought process for the RCS was to balance its fast with the range 3 of Hans. Once you have any other walkers however that "balancing' is clearly unbalanced.

Take care and have a great day.

A few here have suggested its range be increased to 3 (i think).  Things like that make me okay with updated/errataed card packs (though that could get scary also).

Cry Havoc!  And let slip the hogs of war!

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Reply #33 | Published on 29 October 2012 - 13:24:33

Yep, Range 3 would be a small change that would benefit it a lot.

Suck my Mickey

Reply #34 | Published on 31 October 2012 - 05:27:49

Shame to admit but i used blackhawk in my last game of crossroads mission. . it even killed a monkey after 8 misses. . and in previous mission it took down a LUDWIG 

 

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Reply #35 | Published on 31 October 2012 - 11:25:31

I use Blackhawk all the time, but it's the only light walker I have at the the moment.

But back to the original topic, one thing to note is these guys are mounted on a 50mm base and not the 60mm vehicle size base.

I don't always play board-games, but when I do I play Tannhauser.

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Reply #36 | Published on 02 November 2012 - 10:48:00
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Loophole Master said:

We'll have to wait for the rules, but I can see how they could be a sort of a hybrid. They count as three figures when rolling damage from X/+ weapons, but they take damage just like a single hero.

Something I noticed today makes me think that they will be treated as a single figure, even for damage from flamethrowers and the like.

What I noticed is that the card clearly states that the unit only has one combat knife.

The rules for knives say "When using this weapon, roll the number of dice indicated in the combat value for each miniature currently in the squad".(Revised Core Rulebook pg. 25)

 

Note that it clearly says that there is one knife per miniature.  So, since there is only one knife for the Laser-Jagdgrenadieres, I think that they are going to be treated as one miniature.

 

Since the rules for incendiary blast weapons say "To apply this type of damage, roll “X” dice for each targeted miniature and inflict one point of damage for each result" (Revised Core Rulebook pg. 24), I think that they will only take one point of damage from flamethrowers.

 

I guess we'll see! 

 

I assume that if there are new rules for these types of units, they will be in the Operation Hades book.

 

 

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Reply #37 | Published on 03 November 2012 - 07:54:46

 The rules in Hades doesn't say much about these units, except. Since the three soldiers are on the same base, it's not possible to remove them when they are casualties, you mark one box for each casualty. It also says that when you get down to one box, you have to choice which weapon you want to fire. You can't fire both weapons. 

I think when attacked with a flamethrower you roll based on the number of health points remaining, but that is just my interpretation of the unit.

It's all about the Dust

Dan

Indianapolis, Indiana

Reply #38 | Published on 03 November 2012 - 09:00:43

Wow, they're being very vague about it.

Suck my Mickey

Reply #39 | Published on 03 November 2012 - 14:45:15
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 Well, the model is not actually available yet, correct? Maybe they'll explain it then

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