Hey Guys, I am new to the Dust universe and I was wondering what game you prefer, Tactics, or Warfare.
now I will probably play both, Tactics probably first, but I want to know what the community generally likes.
You know? I can honestly say I love both equally. When I'm playing one, I don't wish I was playing the other. They are so completely different, and both so well done, that I don't have a preference and make sure I have my stuff for both at each gamenight.
Never tried Warfare, don't have much curiosity about it. Absolutely love Tactics just the way it is.
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Tactics is very simple like AT43 was. A quick play that relies on strategy more than tricks. Warfare is a good game just a little more complex but a good play.
Having played both I can honestly say that I prefer Warfare. Tactics is good but for me Warfare is great.
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it seems generally that its mixed between games, I am assuming being a wargamer I will really enjoy warfares deep ruleset.
Both games are fantastic, and both get deeper the more you play them. I'm on a Warfare high right now since it's new to me, but am looking forward to getting back into playing some Tactics.
I prefer Warfare, which I have been playing most since it came out, I have also been playing tactics again lately since I have a SSU force. I imagine that when Zverograd book comes out for Warfare, That will be my main game. But, I would never turn down a tactics game.
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I prefer Tactics. Demo of warfare at gen con made me feel like i was playin 40k and at-43. Love both but i like the easy rules and gameplay of tactic.
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I guess it depends on what you're looking for. I have Tactics and absolutely love it. It's quick to setup, simple to learn and play, enough complexe and strategic. Lots of missions available and you can easily create your own.
Never tried Warfare but it's more a minis game than a board game so my guess would be that it's longer but could offer more strategic and tactical choices throughout a game.
I prefer Tactics just because it's quick and fun but would be curious to try Warfare. Sadly I don't have the ideal installations to play Warfare but one day i'l try it. The cool thing is that you can use your Tactics minis and terrains/accessories/buildings to play Warfare so apart from the Warfare rulebook and you could be good to go at first.
I enjoy Tactics, but am completely underwhelmed by Warfare.
It is very different than Tactics, but don't go to it expecting a 'deeper' game. While it adds some elements, it forgot to deal with several others Tactics has dealt with quite well, and is in significant need of an extensive FAQ and errata. Adding force restrictions that make little sense, changing things just to be different than Tactics, and leaving gaping holes in the rules do not make a game 'deeper.' Different, yes, but I found it shallower overall.
I can't classify either game as more than beer and pretzels, but Tactics at least has a far more polished finish to it.
For Tactics: tactics do matter, you have flexibility to create more force options, and most of the game makes reasonable sense. All of that, with a quick and easy rules set to work with.
For Warfare: the reactive mechanic is interesting, but there are significant gaps in some rules, force structure is restricted oddly as in 40K, and many rules make no sense for people with any military training.
Both can be fun for some players, and I'm happy for those who enjoy Warfare, but I won't invest anything more into Warfare until it gets a significant overhaul. Warfare feels too much like DUST 40K, and 40K has never been a terribly good rules set. Popular, yes, but rather mediocre as a rules set.
After playing quite a few games of Dust Warfare, I definitely find the game to be a much deeper experience, with a longer learning curve.
The big difference for me is that co-operation between units is much more important in Dust Warfare than Dust Tactics, partially because of the different turn system, and partially because of the new reaction and suppression rules. Where Dust Tactics has somewhat of a "Rock Paper Scissors" system on what individual unit type can take out other individual unit types, with Dust Warfare, it feels more like how you combine units and make them work co-operatively to take out enemies. A unit may be good at one thing alone, good at something else when paired with another unit, and good at something else altogether when paired with a different kind of unit (and perhaps good at something else if paired with a particular platoon upgrade). It makes for very dynamic game play, and makes army creation a much more thoughtful process.
That said, I don't like it better than Dust Tactics. Dust Tactics is a "fast and dirty" game, where as often as not the game is won by a single roll of the dice in the final round. It's a wargame you can set up and teach someone how to play in less than 10 minutes, and that is a very rare and wonderful thing. Dust Tactics has this interesting yet bizarre "Chess with a bucket filled with dice" feeling that I have not seen in any other game.
Asking me which one I prefer is like Sophie's Choice - I can't choose, and best of all, I DON'T HAVE TO. If you have Tactics, Warfare is not a huge investment. And what's also great about having both of these games, is that they are both doing quite well for FFG, which means there's going to be a steady stream of awesome new units, expansions, and campaign books coming out for both games for a long time.
Warfare seems to be a great game to run tournaments and do matches against other players. It is my choice.
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Tactics, it really is just a fun relaxing game.
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For a $20 investment (PDF), why not go ahead and buy Dust Warfare? If you don't like, you won't be out much cash. I absolutely would NOT purchase the hard copy -- it is very poorly written (just from a gramatical standpoint, not to mention the rule set has holes requiring house rules), with one-third of the forces (SSU) left out. No doubt a rewrite will be forthcoming in the not too distant future; I am waiting to see if Mr. Martian can apply a bit of high school math to the next version…
That being said, they are two different games and I enjoy (mostly, ignoring the stupid gaffs and applying house rules as needed) warfare when I want a "larger" game requiring more interaction between units, or because that is what is being played that night. My go to is Dust Tactics -- the rule set is polished and works, providing an enjoyably quick and ferocious game play. I would say I remain 80% Dust Tactics and 20% Dust Warfare. If you come from a 40k or FoW background, you might enjoy Dust Warfare as it will seem more familier.