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Dust Tactics
A tactical miniatures board game in the world of Dust
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Axis walker cards
Published on 25 May 2012 - 09:49:17

 

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Reply #1 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 15:17:19

Very cool! Man, you don't want to be caught in that Flamm-Luther's blast. It's the same damage as the Fireball, only with a little less range. Plus it's got Assault for a nasty surprise…

Analyzing what you get for the 9 points you spend to upgrade the Wotan to the Armor 6 AR version, as opposed to Armor 5:

- None of the phasers can hurt you anymore.

- Napalm throwers have a different damage, but it effectively changes nothing. It's the exact same one-hit-kill.

And that is it, really, when attacked by the Allies. The ONLY advantage you get is Phaser-imperviousness.

 

Against the few SSU units we know, the only difference is a substancial difference against the KV-47's howitzer and sulfur jet. Howitzer is 1/1 instead of 2/1 and sulfer jet is 1/4 instead of 1/kill.

 

So all in all, I'd say it doesn't seem quite worth the extra 9AP, which is a pity cause I think the AR version looks much better.

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Reply #2 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 15:20:34

 I agree about the Wotan vs ar version, I was hopeing for damage resillient on the ar but the flamme luther exceeded my expectactions.

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Reply #3 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 15:22:16

These look so awesome! Can't wait to pick them up.

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Reply #4 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 15:26:20

Dakkon426 said:

I agree about the Wotan vs ar version, I was hopeing for damage resillient on the ar but the flamme luther exceeded my expectactions.

Yeah, I was expecting DR as well, though that would be REALLY powerful. I think extra Health would have been more useful.

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Reply #5 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 15:27:50

 Apart from serving as a hvy walker destroyer Wotan seems a bit over priced in my opinion.

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Reply #6 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 15:31:42

Lska said:

 Apart from serving as a hvy walker destroyer Wotan seems a bit over priced in my opinion.

Dunno, it can eat up any walker with those lasers and its greater longevity.

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Reply #7 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 16:34:05
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Interesting to see a range of 10 intstead of U.

I wonder if that will be the trend going forward, or if this is a special case.

 
Reply #8 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 16:43:05

It's funny, cause range 10 is something that was introduced by Dust-Models with their cards for the Ryu and the Barking Dog. It seems FFG just went along with it with the Wotan, which is little more than a Ryu variant.

I think it makes a lot of sense for the laser, since the Hermann's heavy laser has quite a range limitation (from an axis pov).

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Reply #9 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 16:48:34
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Yeah - with that range though it's about as good as U most of the time.  And with a sustained attack, you're looking at decent odds of doing 6+ damage vs a walker - that's kind of crazy.

 
Reply #10 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 16:59:29
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Flamm -Luther is nice - Assault, Range 2xFlamer and 6 Health for 51? Count me in :D

On the other hand I'm disappointed a bit with both Wotan variants.

Normal costs 58, is tougher and has 6 Health which is nice but the weapon… Range 10 is OK but the rate of fire 2/3 against walkers is not great for this points. I would prefer 3/2 so you have better chance to hit an enemy walker.

And upgraded Wotan is IMO a total mistake. 9 points more for extra health? No, thank you.

 

Conclusion:

Is it worthy to buy a this box? For Flamme-Luther - definitely. Wotan variant is rather fancy stuff. Instead of fielding him I would rather take Ludwig and for bigger games Konig's-Luther.

 

PS. Dakkon - when r u going to update your army builder? :D

 

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Reply #11 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 20:00:38

 when all new unit cards are out ill rellease an update.

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Reply #12 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 21:08:15
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Loophole Master said:

- None of the phasers can hurt you anymore.

I'd wager that the upcoming Cobra changes that.

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Reply #13 | Published on 25 May 2012 - 22:03:01

daniello_s said:

Range 10 is OK but the rate of fire 2/3 against walkers is not great for this points. I would prefer 3/2 so you have better chance to hit an enemy walker.

But don't forget that it's a laser, so it can potentially do a lot more damage.

 

And I agree, the Cobra's phaser will surely be able to damage the heavier walkers.

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Reply #14 | Published on 26 May 2012 - 04:59:38
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Loophole Master said:

It's funny, cause range 10 is something that was introduced by Dust-Models with their cards for the Ryu and the Barking Dog. [b]It seems FFG just went along with it with the Wotan, which is little more than a Ryu variant.[/b]

I think it makes a lot of sense for the laser, since the Hermann's heavy laser has quite a range limitation (from an axis pov).

 

I thought Dust Studio/Models designed the rules for Tactics , with FFG distributing ? As opposed to Warfare where FFG do both

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Reply #15 | Published on 26 May 2012 - 05:13:15

 IMO Ludwig beats the wotan and costs 1/3 less…. I just don't thnik 2 dices are relaiable… On the other hand against more than 4 armor it can be more usefull

 

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