Khudzlin said:

Ugh. This thing… I have a new found hatred for this location (and Enslaved, too, but that's another story). This ******* thing kept stalling a game out (opponent had 0 power, but no gold… thank you choke… and just kept on successfully defending with 11-15 STR worth of night's watch characters he kept in his hand, and not attacking) that it took 11 plots to vomit enough characters forth from my hand to bypass this little p.o.s.

Bomb said:

ktom said:

Well, compared to a lot of stuff that comes out, they answered a whole lot of questions we were having.  They knew we would have questions about icon removal, what counts for triggered effects, etc.  I think there is always going to be something they miss.  :-)

Khudzlin said:

So, with Naval, is the character declared by kneeling it (like the normal challenge declaration), or is the kneeling separate from the declaration?

Based solely on the wording of the rules insert from Bomb, it looks like the kneeling is separate from the declaration. Specifically, it says "…the attacking or defending player can kneel a non-participating chracter with the Naval enhancement on the matching challenge icon and declare it as a Naval attacker or defender in that challenge."

Note that you do not delcare it as a Naval attacker or defender by kneeling it (as in the core rules); you don't even kneel it to declare it as a Naval attacker or defender. You kneel it and declare it. So as written, the kneeling and the declaring are separate. That means that "does not kneel to attack or defend" with the Naval enhancement would act like The Wall (where "knelt" and "defending" are separate), not like the normal declaration (when "kneel" and "defend" are part of the same process.

This would mean there could be card text that says "does not kneel to be declared as a Naval attacker or defender," which would mean the character could enter through the Naval mechanic standing, but would still kneel to attack or defend if declared in the normal way.