Thanks!  I'll let some other brilliant minds discuss the implications.

i hope this clarification wil be put in the next faq

this makes the "combo" burn and pillage+ support of the kingdom not usable

This also means that "Burned and Pillaged" will still reduce the gold of an opponent if the plot  'Rains of Autumn'  'Characters,locations,and attachments do not provide income bonuses this round."  is used?

Since B&P is a gold penalty..

The ruling the USA people used before would have been that B&P is still gold income just negative hence on a Rains turn they wouldnt count?

Have the bolded words below been added to the core set rules?

Income Bonuses and Penalties
Some cards (mostly locations) have a large gold
coin marked with a value of +X or -X in their
rules text. These cards modify the income value
on your revealed plot card, even when kneeling.

Its just seemed odd to me that income mentioned penalties and initiative doesnt.

If this is indeed the ruling, then does that mean Rhaegar's Harp basically removes the ability of removing any traits from the attached character?

Text:

"Attached character gains all Traits."

Bomb said:

Unless of course it faces the counter of Condemned…

Text:

"Attached character loses all Traits and immunities. If you win dominance, kill attached character."

I presume they'd cancel each other out and leave behind the original Traits on the character like before, but the question remains the same.

Uncle Joker said:

That seems like an odd statement to me, because I can't recall any "lose each trait" effects in the card pool that ktom could have referenced there.

So… what's the final word on this? Thanks in advance.

(1) Burned and Pillaged affects KOTHH because it isn't an income bonus.
(2) "each trait/keyword/…" = "one instance of every of those traits/keywords/…"
      "all traits/keywords/…" = "all instances of those traits/keywords/…"

I want to thank Damon for finally clarifying (2) but want to punch him into his faces for (1).

Does Burned and Pillaged still apply a gold penalty if you attach it to a location that doesn't produce gold? I know ever since it's been played as if it does, but I've recently been told that the rules were clarified on it and it has to actually modify something with a gold bonus on it.

Hamster Friend said:

The attached location gains the "-1 Gold" icon. It's not like you have to have a "+1" icon before you can gain a "-1" icon.

So no, Burned and Pillaged does not need to be attached to a location with a printed gold bonus icon. The "-1 Gold" modifies the income count, not the gold modifiers on the card that gains the icon from the attachment.

livingEND said:

BTW, This thread was resurrected because of this other thread about pentoshi & lost oasis.

(1) makes perfect sense and I never understood why this wasn't the way it was always played.

(2) I don't find a single card that has the word "each" in it that involves removal of traits/keywords so this "clarification" seems rather meaningless to me.  The options appear to be "all keywords/traits", "all except non-X keywords", "those keywords" or "a trait/keyword".

Earlier it was mentioned that Pentoshi created a lasting effect of losing "all keywords for the phase" meant that even keywords gained later on in that phase were also lost.  Does this mean the use of Deceit would cause any keywords gained after it was played to also be lost and to also be transfered to the character of choice?  Text for Deceit "Until the end of the phase, the character of your choice loses all keywords and the other character gains each of those lost keywords."

Banner Bearer is another card that transfers "all traits" "until the end of the phase".  Does this mean any gained keywords during the phase will also transfer or is the transfer only good at the time of the trigger? 

Balon's Host says "lose all non-immunity keywords" - even though that is a subset of "all keywords" does the above "all instances" rule apply?

Arya Stark says "Until the end of the phase, …, loses those keywords" with regards to stealth and renown.  If a character had printed stealth and stealth from a card effect and Arya triggers this ability - would they lose Stealth completely or just 1 instance of it.   The rest of Arya's ability says she gains "any keyword lost in this way".   In the above scenario, does that mean Arya wouldn't gain a keyword since the target still has stealth?

Banner Bearer says "all keywords the chosen character has". This means however many instances the character has at the time the ability is resolved.

Balon's Host removes all keywords (except Immunity), however many times they are present.

Arya Stark (Core Set) affects only one instance each of Stealth and Renown.

ty for the response.  How about Deceit?

And does Pentoshi have a "last effect" so that it will continue to remove traits for the remainder of the phase?