tech7 said:

Because the license for a Card game is likely cheap since it has not been used in a decade.

Heres another reason why they should do as much with Dune IP as possible. Free advertising.

Wheres the free advertising you may ask? Simple. New movie.

hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/01/04/dune-remake/

FFG really should get the old avalon hill rights to that boardgame from days gone by as well, but thats a topic for a different thread.

DieStar said:

There's nothing quite fresh like playing a Original IP cardgame especially in a genre like LCGs. The Shadowar series from UFS was pretty cool and I'd like that to comeback as a LCG since it's already FFG's IP. Why make something so unique and let it go to waste?

I joked about it earlier on the LCG announcement that popped up about the chapter packs, but I'm serious now: a Lord of the Rings/Middle-earth inspired LCG or a Starcraft one. However I wonder if Upper Deck is already sitting on that, waiting to bring that one out since they currently have WoW. However Starcraft is not nearly big enough imo for a TCG. LCG on the other hand could work. Not much of a 40K fan, but I would be willing to give it a shot if they released it. I do like the art style for Rogue Trader. 

Decipher had make by the past a SF CCG: WARS

A invented background; berk

I prefer a background who exist already

I think we can logically expect a 40K game if they make a new LCG. It just makes sense. They made a WH Fantasy Big box game then LCG (or other way round), now they've announced a 40K big box, so a LCG seems to follow suit. Why would they let the license go to waste? Plus I'd have to imagine 40K has as large a fan base as you'll find, not to mention a larger intersection, then most of the properties mentioned. Although a new property would be good in getting in a cross section of new players with proper advertising.

Still, i wouldn't mind seeing a Twilight Imperium or other original IP. I don't so much mind what setting they do it in, that will only add to how cool it is. I buy different games incessantly because I like new systems. The Invasion LCG is a good example of new mechanics for card games while not re-inventing the wheel. I like setting, just make sure that the system is fun. The perfect marriage is a cool IP with a fun system that makes sense for the world, as with Invasion.

As to what others have said: Upper Deck didn't lose the Marvel license, they just stopped Vs. They have a new card game coming out this year called Marvel 2010 (codename).

Star Wars isn't going to happen; on top of the large licensing fee, it's currently held by Wizards who are owned by Hasbro, in which Mr. Lucas has a very large stake. They'll sit on the license before they let anyone else get it. Plus, to be honest, there's really not that much buzz around Star Wars anymore and FFG can get a lot more out of a much less expensive license. Not saying it wouldn't work, but it wouldn't be the return on investment they'd be looking for, methinks.

As for the Avalon Hill board game, see above as it too is owned by Wizards. The only thing they do under that title now is Axis and Allies Minis and the occasional memorial piece (thank god they reprinted Diplomacy), but they'll just sit on those properties.

Not saying that those games wouldn't be cool, I just wouldn't expect to see them. I have to admit that there are some properties that I'd love to see in an LCG that I most likely never will:

Netrunner - god this game was amazing for only getting two sets

Legend of the Burning Sands - AEG, but I never got a chance to play it. Hey, there was L5R discwars way back when, so I can hope, right? :^D

Spycraft - This game was awesome but a little hard to teach. Being able to play any card as anything you wanted was a bit tricky for people to grasp

Lord of the Rings - I would like something with more of an ICE spin,  not Decipher. In fact the Middle-Earth Quest board game looks somewhat reminiscent of this style.

Starcraft - You know it would be cool, come on. Esp with 2 coming out this year (most likely), and it fills the SciFi niche that's currently vacant in CCG's or LCG's. I wouldn't hold out my breath unless UDE gives up the WoW TCG. I wouldn't be surprised if they were sitting on the Starcraft license.

Diablo - Why isn't there Diablo licensed anything? Not even the manga? I have to imagine this is some kind of legal thing, but there was a Diablo campaign/starter set of D&D (2nd ed I think) when Diablo 2 came out and nothing since besides toys.

Iron Kingdoms - once again dreaming, but I can't get enough of this setting. Also redundant with fantasy and one of the main competitors for Games Workshop, but I think there could definitely be some awesome product here.

Blood Bowl - Ooooooooo. That could be awesome and definitely a fun niche not filled right now. Heck, I wish they could just take over blood bowl period. Probably the most fun of the Games Workshop "other" games. That one's actually a possibility too!

FangsFirst said:

Charitsune said:

Agreed.  UFS wasn't sci-fi, but what an awesome game.  Bring it back as an LCG.

Oh, so I'm not the only one who'd love to see UFS in LCG format!

(I love it, but I'll never buy a single card as long as it's still CCG, same I did with A Game of Thrones and Call of Cthulhu)

FangsFirst said:

A Blood Bowl LCG would be an auto-buy for me.

I would expect the next LCG from FFG to be based on an existing property, and one tht FFG already has the rights to. I'm basing this on the one big cost of a start-up card game artwork. When a Core Set comes out, it requires a large card pool, usually made up of at least 160 new cards. Which means 160 new pieces of art. And that can be a huge investment. If they can base it off of something they already own, they can reuse the artwork. Which means 40K or Twilight Imperium, or possibly even Cosmic Encounter are strong candidates.

Myself, I'd love to see them acquire the rights to Shadowrun as a LCG. That would totally rock. And bring Shadowar into a UFS LCG. They spent the time designing the property, might as well get their the money's worth.

Hopefully it won't be Mutant Chronicles. THe minis game was impressive, but how many people besides me had heard of the property before.

One last note. AS someone already mentioned, FFG has already acquired the rights to the AH Dune game, but can't publish it as Dune, as the Frank Herbert estate wouldn't resell the license. But they have the rules and the "engine," as it were, and are going to rerelase the game my guess is as a reinvention of their old Hex game, Thunders Edge.

Honestly, I'm excited about anything new period to start from the ground floor. I would love a Sci-Fi game. Personally, I'd love to play Firefly/Serenity.

JerusalemJones said:

I have heard of it before and own quite a bit of it, Minis, books, and the original CCG Doomtrooper that I bought boxes for cheap a few years ago on ebay when a friend of mine, who is a huge MC fan, got me into the card game. It's a great setting but has never seemed to really do very well sadly after Target games went under back in the late 90's.

I would suspect we will probably see a 40K card game, which if its anything like the Sabertooth one I will not play or Twilight Imperium which would be interesting, but it will defintely I think be something sci fi, it just makes the most sense.

I just had a thought, another great one would be a Doomtown, that game had great battle mechanics and might catch on with the increased interest in poker in recent years. I have no idea who owns the rights to the Deadlands and Doomtown setting though.

Toqtamish said:

Pinnacle Entertainment, but AEG has the perma-license, so I wouldn't expect to see it.

My money is still wtih JJones, I think it will be an existing property, half just so they can reuse artwork, whether from or to another product. They certainly have enough 40K art stockpiled already with all the RPG's. It's high quality, so don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, it makes business sense for them. I also have faith that it will be fun as very little I buy from FFG isn't.

I have heard of Mutant Chronicles before, but I've never really been impressed. There's a lot of awesome settings out there, so it takes a good bit to stand out anymore.

UFS could be brought back if they used ShadoWar, but I don't think it was very popular. The game engine was okay, but to me the only thing that kept me in that game was being able to play Ken or a Darkstalker vs. other people. I could easily see why LCG's wouldn't be able to support that kind of license fee, and without the licenses the game is just meh IMHO.

What I would like the best is if they came up with something completely original that players can impact. I always enjoy games like that.

T.I....... that it. they have 10 races and tons of art for it calready.   I think it should be done in a planet controling format like CoC story control.  That would work ready well.    Just my 2 cents