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WFRP 3.5 or 4e - truth or rumour?
Published on 24 February 2013 - 01:32:23
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Reply #16 | Published on 25 February 2013 - 20:42:35

Emirikol said:

I can't see FFG putting out anythign that would beat the hardcovers put out for 2e.  ToS, RoS, and ToC were simply unbeatable for sheer, usable, playable content.  FFG can't even put out flippin' dice, much less pull off anything beyond POD for this game anymore.  TEW was welcome, but it was their last hurrah and was a year behind schedule. Anyone thinking 4e will happen is smoking something in Amsterdam imho.

 

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This.

 

There is absolutely zero evidence whatsoever to suggest that FFG is making a Warhammer 3.5 or Warhammer 4.0.  In fact, all the evidence suggests the exact opposite.  If 3e hasn't sold well and they want to cancel it (which seems to be everyone's assumption), then why would they want to make another edition of a game that isn't selling well?  Furthermore, they've already reused the game's core mechanic into the Star Wars RPG, if anything that game is the closest thing to a Warhammer 4e we'll see from FFG.

Frankly, I expect the PoD structure to continue for awhile, maybe even with a box release every year or so.  However I do think they are about done with Warhammer 3e, and I see no evidence at all to suggest another edition in the works.  Honestly though I'm not that bothered by it.  Me and my group already have so much to explore with this game, at the rate we play if they didn't release another thing it would be at least a couple of years before we played through it all, let alone the fan made content (which is excellent).

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Reply #17 | Published on 25 February 2013 - 22:07:42
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The idea of a new edition is just silly. Zero evidence. They didn't put the nessesary resources into marketing the already excellent gane they had with 3e - to invest in a new edition would be silly. Bringing the various elements into an easily comprehensible product (with enough bits for more than three) and then investing in marketing - that would be a good idea!
And some flipping dice!

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Reply #18 | Published on 25 February 2013 - 23:01:49

The lack of said flipping dice is the biggest problem, I think.  I actually looked into buying the Guides to try WFRP Lite not long ago but decided against it simply because I couldn't get any dice (apart from some that were horribly overpriced) without buying the box sets, too.

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Reply #19 | Published on 26 February 2013 - 01:43:04

Brand said:

The lack of said flipping dice is the biggest problem, I think.  I actually looked into buying the Guides to try WFRP Lite not long ago but decided against it simply because I couldn't get any dice (apart from some that were horribly overpriced) without buying the box sets, too.

Don't try the Lite version - not worth it. It a horrible and unplayable mode of the game. You must write down on all cards from the book into the charcter sheet action list.

Did You all see the content of SW EotE RPG core rulebook? Wow, that's a big and good book. Why don't they do something similar to WFRP? let them make a revised edition at least with backward compatibility with 3e. A game that would allow players to play the game the way they want. So with no cards and with not to have to rewrite the cards into character sheets. I agre that W40k RPG are more popular but that's becouse they splited it into more systems. I don't know if it will work for WFRP but they could try. The second reason for a change would be to come back to more cllassical aproach to RPGs that could win back some fans of the WFRP 1 & 2 edition. The 3rd reason is that all new game are selling better and are gatting more attention from the publisher so they could go into new directions and expand the universe.

All of all I think thjat if FFG is planing something with 3e they would release something in 2Q 2013 they would announce it now. It all looks like FFG is not planing anything for 3e, maybe they giove us a POD (so a expensive small expansion) with other content that other way we would not see but nothing more.

Cheers

 

PS. Such content like the one From The Grave would be great in a vampire or Sylvania box but it looks like we will not see anything like it.

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Reply #20 | Published on 26 February 2013 - 13:22:52
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"And I really don't get it why people are getting so nervous about it?"

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Because I already spent over $500 in WFRP 3e products… if they have a new/revised edition coming, I hope it's at least compatible with 3e components.

 

 

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Reply #21 | Published on 26 February 2013 - 14:37:38

Other than threads like these, there are no rumors of 4ed. It's a total forum fabrication.

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Reply #22 | Published on 27 February 2013 - 02:32:27

Doc, the Weasel said:

Other than threads like these, there are no rumors of 4ed. It's a total forum fabrication.

Very true!

But consdering that FFG are not saying anything at all, and considering their previous form in this area with 2nd / 3rd edition, it cannot be surprising that these threads exist.

Personally I think, apart from the occassional POD, that WFRP is essentially dead as far as FFG are concerned. I suspect that they do not need to have WFRP for the license to be very profitable. We will probably only see something new when FFG gives up or loses the license, which won't be for a few years yet. Only GW, I suspect, could force something to happen and that will only happen if they are that bothered about WFRP. Depressing but true.

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Reply #23 | Published on 27 February 2013 - 04:44:06

Actually, it isn't even a forum rumor.

It's a Beren Eoth rumor.

The dude is constantly chirping additional slander on 3e and suggesting a new edition looking like star wars.

Go away and play Star Wars Beren and stop disturbing this forum!

 

We are here to talk about 3e, not some underaged's wet dream.

 

Now if we could just get some dice and a simple announcement for the next couple boxes, we could put all the babies to bed and continue developing additional fan material.

 

TYVM

 

 

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Reply #24 | Published on 27 February 2013 - 04:46:13

Aside from the astonishing and ridiculous lack of dice for the game, I wouldn't be too quick to say FFG is not developing add-ons. Just to be sure I made a quick list (using publications dates listed on The Book Depoistory site). This is what has been published and when:

25 november 2009 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay
2 december 2009 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay Dice Set
21 december 2009 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: The Adventurer's Toolkit 

18 may 2010 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: The Gathering Storm
18 may 2010 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: Game Master's Toolkit
10 august 2010 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: The Winds of Magic
12 october 2010 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: The Edge of Night
7 decemmber 2010 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: Signs of Faith 

11 january 2011 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: Player's Guide
11 january 2011 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: Game Master's Guide
25 january 2011 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: The Creature Guide
11 january 2011 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: Player's Vault
11 january 2011 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: Game Master's Vault
25 january 2011 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: The Creature Vault
5 april 2011 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: The Witch's Song
27 december 2011 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: Omens of War 
 
10 january 2012 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: Black Fire Pass
10 january 2012 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: Lure of Power
12 june 2012 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: Hero's Call
4 december 2012 Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: The Enemy Within 
 
That''s three products in 2009 (including the now missing dice). Five products in 2010. A huge glot of products in 2011 (although the vault/guide cominations should only count as one each. And four products last year. That is excluding the POD titles and the dice app that is only usable on Apple telephones and tablets. I wouldn't call that too shoddy, although I have to add that a lack of any january release this year is a bit odd, why not hold the complaints and the random rumormongering if they also miss a publication in may?

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Reply #25 | Published on 27 February 2013 - 05:23:25

LordoftheMilk said:

Actually, it isn't even a forum rumor.

It's a Beren Eoth rumor.

The dude is constantly chirping additional slander on 3e and suggesting a new edition looking like star wars.

Go away and play Star Wars Beren and stop disturbing this forum!

 

We are here to talk about 3e, not some underaged's wet dream.

 

Now if we could just get some dice and a simple announcement for the next couple boxes, we could put all the babies to bed and continue developing additional fan material.

 

TYVM

 

 

Actually he is not the only one by a long way. This has been going on ever since GENCON last year. I suggest using the word slander is both a bit strong and possibly legally actionable, so mind your language. You may not agree but he has every right to voice an opinion that is also had by others. FFG could put this all to bed very easily, but they choose not to, and I personally don't think they care enough to do so.

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Reply #26 | Published on 27 February 2013 - 05:42:22

Not legally actionable in this form.

Threads such as this one only hurt the game.

We should be promoting it if we love it, or stay away from here if we don't.

I am therefore asking Beren to leave, for I find his threads both offensive and non-constructive.

Right or wrong has nothing to do with it.

 

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Reply #27 | Published on 27 February 2013 - 07:30:58

I will stay here and I'm going to write all my opinions. FFG should klnow what players think of there games. This rumour is not from me but it shows on fiorums all over the world from GenCon 2012. All of aus can say what they want and I just want to know what's FFG up to. I'm not a 3e hater or any other such thing. I've played WFRP 3e from the oment it come out and liked it but now I'm  disapointed by the FFG policy. Other RPG that will have anything in 2Q 2013 got there announcements and WFRP got nothing. If the rumour is true then I would like to know it if not then why we don't get any new products? Those are the questions that need anwsers. That's why I started this treat to let FFG know that players still want this game to expande by new products on this or a new edition.

Every year WFRP is getting fever expansions. In 2011 we got Guides & Vaults and that does not count - those were reprints from other previous expansions and did not give nothing new. Some one sauid that this game could be ending not by a new edition from FFG but with the drop of the licence and I just hpe that this will not happen. I want WFRP to stay and expande and I don't care wich edition will it be - 3e, 3.5 e or 4 e. I just want to have more new products that will bring more information about the universe and that will give me more options to play.

I really believe that if FFG would do a new/revised edition with backward compatibility players would get new products, maybe even some fans of 1e or 2e would come back to this game.

So I'm here to show FFG that we still want to play WFRP and I just want to get some news or annoucements. For me the worst scenario would be the end of  WFRP from FFG and the news that they droped the licence. I'm a huge fan of Warhammer Fantasy and as a fan I want to see more great products comming that will make my game bigger and better.

Cheers

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Reply #28 | Published on 27 February 2013 - 07:50:59

LordoftheMilk said:

I am therefore asking Beren to leave, for I find his threads both offensive and non-constructive.

Right or wrong has nothing to do with it.

 

If you do not like free speech I suggest you go to North Korea. I may not agree with everything he says but I defend his right to say it. If FFG are OK with him to continue, then I suggest you leave well alone and avoid reading any of his entries, if they offend you so much. Not too difficult a task I would say. 

There are a number of people on this forum who care very much about WFRP, whatever edition, and over the years have done much for it including third edition. These people also share Beren's at leat some of worries and speculations, at least partlly because they would like to know whether they are writing fan material for an edition that has a future.

If you want to have a go at anybody, I sggest you have a go at FFG over what is happening with the dice. Without those nobody who buys just the books can play the game. And not everybody wants to get a smartphone, just so that they can use the dice app. it might be a more constructive use of your time.

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Reply #29 | Published on 27 February 2013 - 07:54:32

This forum is about the existing game: WFRP 3e.

 

If you want to express desideratas about another game (like a new edition or some such), go and post them elsewhere.

 

In any case, I do not believe that your strong statements indicating that 3 e is dead or that a new edition is foreshadowed are anything but unfounded rubbish, and it only creates disorientation to newcomers.

 

I, for one, would like newcomers to the game to find in this forum to find what they need to enhance their gaming experience. Not throw them away from the game before they even purchase in it.

 

If you continue on your stance, I shall continue to point out how completely inappropriate to your goals (if supporting FFG's license it is) your behaviour is.

 

 

"Please come in and be welcome in my domain. Leave a little of the warmth you have brought, forever."

A.

Reply #30 | Published on 27 February 2013 - 07:59:28

I am very happy that you are allowed to continue to express your discontent on whatever you wish.

 

I would be even happier if you went off and expressed it elsewhere.

 

I personally express my own discontent on destructive behaviour, which I believe this thread is, on this forum.

 

 

"Please come in and be welcome in my domain. Leave a little of the warmth you have brought, forever."

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