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marklawford said:
Foolishboy said:
I'd take that with a pinch of salt, to be honest. I wasn't a great player of D&D3/3.5 but I do like the Eberron setting, not that I got chance to play it that much. But of course I bought the D&D4 box set and a couple of the supplements and then the Eberron player and campaign books despite my misgivings over the D&D4 mindset. And I'm doubtful I'll get much chance to use them in anger.
Now, switch that to WFRP3, a game I have much more chance of actually playing and the equation is pretty simple. What happens if I hate the system? I might drop it entirely, sure. I might be more selective in terms of the content I buy, looking for supplements that I feel would offer more to my 2nd edition game. Or I might just buy everything because I'm a collector and I have a full set of gubbins already. And that's if I'm turned off by the game. if I do, you know, like it, then I'll be there first in line at the games store.
I'm not saying that FFG should take things for granted (do that and the game is literally up), but I don't think we, as players, as consumers, as gamers, should just assume that trepidation over a new direction equates to a blanket cessation of purchases from the old guard.
Yes, probably. I think the more pressing question is that once existing fans buy the new core set (as I'm likely to do despite my misgivings) will they then go on to buy later supplements? And if the system does have a major turn off compared to 2nd edition, I know I won't...
Hope is the biggest and best lie there is. Without Hope,we'd be nothing at all
phobiandarkmoon said:
Yes, probably. I think the more pressing question is that once existing fans buy the new core set (as I'm likely to do despite my misgivings) will they then go on to buy later supplements? And if the system does have a major turn off compared to 2nd edition, I know I won't...
Once we buy the system, we'll find out whether the game works for us or not.
The emotive language that has so far greeted the new edition is a little disturbing, at least it is for me speaking as someone who is actually coming back to WFRP after a little break. I've been keeping up to date with the game through 2nd edition and was excited about 3rd edition. And then I saw the response. It's a bit embarrasing actually.
It is very easy to naysay ahead of time. If you're wrong you can claim FFG were lucky and just about got it right. And if you're right and the game bombs you get to do a little "I told you so" dance and wait to see what happens next. Personally, I'd rather be optimistic and throw my weight behind the game. There's nothing to suggest that the setting is changing and there's everything to suggest that playability and the play experience is at the heart of the game. Remember, 2nd edition has a stack of problems that we kind of disregard in play, and would be quite difficult to address head-on.
And remember, we're talking about the core set and one supplement available at launch. It isn't going to be a complete system/setting all in one go. There will be content, and content that some want earlier rather than later, that will be threaded through a number of product releases. After all you had to wait a few years from the launch of 2nd edition (if memory serves) before you had a pamphleteer advanced career.
I do really hope that the community does calm down a little and take a more optimistic view. If nothing else, it would make me feel better about coming back to a game I've always loved.
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