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Valadar said:
I've also been a bit disturbed by what I've seen but I think it would be better to reserve judgement once the final product is out. The pics from gencon show a character sheet that is extremely similar to the 2nd edition. So it is possible that they might be offering two ways to play the game, such as how there are two ways to rule armor in the 2nd edition rules.
Player sheets in question...
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They seem to be a bit simplified but you can't really tell. Either way, its a step towards the good direction.
If the game has the slightest recemblance to a boardgame then I'm out for sure! I HATE it - I don't think it has anything to do with roleplaying!
WFRP is dead - long live WFRP1 & WFRP2
"...Fear is our Greatest Weapon - Fire our chosen Tool..."
Aldred Fellblade said:
Saying that people have no reason to be concerned is disingenuous in my view. It's certainly true that fans tend to get excited about this sort of thing but to say that nothing is known is absurd. It's already clear that the new edition is going to have radically new mechanics and utilise a number of gimmicks that appear to be geared to discourage piracy. It's quite clearly a sea change in WFRP and surely people's understandable concerns don't deserve to be dismissed or patronised. Why should I want a game that mechanically bears virtually no relation to the game I like?
To discourage piracy?
Yeah, let's see... FFG has a huge problem with piracy, with all the succesful board games they sell, with DH (pure paper RPG, easily scanned) selling like hot bread and continually out of stock with most retailers - hilarious idea.
Even if they did and they only wanted to milk money out of players - do you think it would be a good idea to release a risky and inventive new product in a 100 bucks box? That alone is going to discourage a lot of buyers, probably more than would download the pirated PDF if FFG just printed a new, lightly modified edition of the pure paper WFRP.
Your piracy notions make no sense whatsoever.
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Schwermuht said:
If the game has the slightest recemblance to a boardgame then I'm out for sure! I HATE it - I don't think it has anything to do with roleplaying!
WFRP is dead - long live WFRP1 & WFRP2
Yes, because as any good roleplayer knows, roleplaying is dependant on system!
Oh, wait... it isn't.
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Diriel said:
Valadar said:
I've also been a bit disturbed by what I've seen but I think it would be better to reserve judgement once the final product is out. The pics from gencon show a character sheet that is extremely similar to the 2nd edition. So it is possible that they might be offering two ways to play the game, such as how there are two ways to rule armor in the 2nd edition rules.
Player sheets in question...
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It looks like there's six primary characteristics. I don't see Weapon Skill or Ballistic Skill on there, so I'm assuming they're actually skills now. Furthermore, I can't read the last characteristic, so I can't tell if it's still Fellowship or if they've changed it to something else. Odd that they didn't add Perception, or if they did, it's frustrating that Fellowship may have been replaced.
"D&D Characters Die Frequently. If you and your players refuse to embrace this axiom, you fall prey to an invulnerability that renders all the dangers impotent. You simply reenact plots knowing that the hero always survives and wins. ::yawn:: But in accepting it you spring headlong into a world of thrills n chills where failure and death are ever-present possibilities, surmounted only by the now-classic resolution: create another heroic wannabe and try to do better." -Frank Mentzer.
Aldred Fellblade said:
It's already clear that the new edition is going to have radically new mechanics and utilise a number of gimmicks that appear to be geared to discourage piracy.
Discourage piracy?
Forgive me for asking, but have you actually met a person that has taken the decision of refusing to buy any more RPG books, because he/she can just download them online?
I find the concept a bit laughable, this is still a hobby where you pretty much NEED the books to be in bookform, and printing a pirated copy of a book seem like more of a trouble than just buying the book in the first place.
So why would these "gimmicks" as you call them be geared to discourage piracy?
I seriously hope that FFG won't buy into the whole crap idea about lost revenues because of piracy (a myth concocted by hollywood and disgusting record companies). Books have been available FOR FREE in libraries for years and years, yet still people have not decided to quit buying books. And just because you can get an inferior copy of a book for free online it doesn't mean that it will discourage people from buying the book later on if they think the pdf copy is worth the money.
" Barkeep! A chosen of the Adeptus Mechanicus is thirsty, so pour me a glass of your finest de-greasing agent, post haste!" - Varnias Tybalt
Sythorn said:
If you look really carefully at the Envoy career, I think Fellowship is listed as one of its primary characteristics.
Perception may still be a skill, but all basic skills may default to their parent attributes' full rating now, instead of using half the rating like in V2.
Schwermuht said:
It looks like a board game because it's packaged like one, and because it has lots of nifty color handouts that probably last for the whole campaign. But from everything I've seen, it's just a snazzy roleplaying game.
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Darthvegeta800 said:
What a 'splendid' community.
Barely anything is known so far and venom has been spat at FFG already.
I said it before and I'll say it again. Disagreeing with the direction that FFG is taking with a game that we love is well within our rights. Expressing our annoyance can hardly be seen as besmirching the community.
I suppose we are all expected to just accept and be happy about the changes, even if we don't feel that way?
Of course you can be upset about the changes but at this time do you really understand what the changes are? Have you read the books? Have you flipped through the 3e box? What do you really know? Wait till it comes out. If it is bad.....then offer your opinion. Thats well within your rights. A publisher should respect that its fans are so devoted to their game than rather than abandon it they express their unhappiness.
I just find it ridiculous that so many people are crying that the world is ending and they haven't seen the finished product. It really says some awful things about the rpg community. Maybe we should all revert back to trifold black and white 32 page adventures. Change is scary.
@ Claven and Varnias Tybalt:
I actually included the stuff about piracy for balance in order to defend FFG on that front as the gimmicks look like a boardgame otherwise which there've been a lot of accusations about. RuneFang says that's not the case and he's certainly going to know what he's talking about. So what exactly is the point of custom dice then?
Bloody Stained Sunday's Best:
'''Wait till it comes out. If it is bad.....then offer your opinion.''
That's right kids. You have to shell out a hundred bucks before you even have the right to offer an opinion! Bend over and like it.
Drive your cart and your plough over the bones of the dead.
The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.
Prudence is a rich ugly old maid courted by incapacity.
Artaxerxes said:
Seriously...
2nd edition Tilea will be published but I'll be buggered if I can even afford this game let alone have the patience to bother with it
Please friend as soon as this is out tell me 
Thanks
Acabou-se a Mama Toda!!!
Aldred Fellblade said:
@ Claven and Varnias Tybalt:
I actually included the stuff about piracy for balance in order to defend FFG on that front as the gimmicks look like a boardgame otherwise which there've been a lot of accusations about. RuneFang says that's not the case and he's certainly going to know what he's talking about. So what exactly is the point of custom dice then?
Bloody Stained Sunday's Best:
'''Wait till it comes out. If it is bad.....then offer your opinion.''
That's right kids. You have to shell out a hundred bucks before you even have the right to offer an opinion! Bend over and like it.
Aldred Fellblade said:
@ Claven and Varnias Tybalt:
I actually included the stuff about piracy for balance in order to defend FFG on that front as the gimmicks look like a boardgame otherwise which there've been a lot of accusations about. RuneFang says that's not the case and he's certainly going to know what he's talking about. So what exactly is the point of custom dice then?
Bloody Stained Sunday's Best:
'''Wait till it comes out. If it is bad.....then offer your opinion.''
That's right kids. You have to shell out a hundred bucks before you even have the right to offer an opinion! Bend over and like it.
I'm gonna go review some movies without watching them and then I'm gonna critique some restaurants without eating the food. I don't like their advertisement in the paper so their food probably stinks and I'm pretty sure I can craft an intelligent review because I saw the trailer and that's everything. Yep. You really got me on this one. Haven't you ever gone to a movie and said, "wow the trailer looked great but the movie blew...." or the flip side, "hey, I liked that film more than I thought I would."
Don't shell out the hundred bucks.....take the time to read other peoples reviews after the product comes out...... see how that works? AFTER..... when there is actually a product to damn or to love. If you don't trust other peoples reviews go to a game store and see if other people are playing. Usually they release bits from the books online so you can preview the product, no?
I dunno if this edition is going to suck or not but I am not going to make off the wall judgements until it comes out. I have enough faith in fantasy flight games to make a good product. If they don't...oh well. I'll play 2e. No problem. When 3e is released, your old books aren't going to combust.
ahh the hell with that. It is so much easier to spout off inflammatory nothings.... Change evil. Worship sun. Awww it comes in a box. They're trying to box me in! Everyone knows you can't roleplay in a box. Worse yet, you can't roleplay over the sound of all those dice rolling. I tried to describe how my character was going to slash a dark elf and all the gm could hear was the sound of 30 dice rolling on the table. This is crap!
back to cave paintings now....
Your analogies are flawed. A movie with a bad preview will elicit negative opinions. The point of an advertisement is to ATTRACT customers. So either the marketing is bad, or the game is how its been portrayed.
Hellebor
Humanity's Insignificance pales in comparison to its Ego. Sir Rumplestiltskin
The capacity to think does not assign importance to your thoughts, it merely indicates you can. Sir Rumplestiltskin
Hellebore said:
Your analogies are flawed. A movie with a bad preview will elicit negative opinions. The point of an advertisement is to ATTRACT customers. So either the marketing is bad, or the game is how its been portrayed.
Hellebor
The marketing sheet DID attract people. Just not the ones who are afraid of change.
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