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Warhammer: Invasion The Card Game
Ancient Enemies and Mighty Empires arise in this card game set in the Warhammer Universe!
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Formal petition: Print a Core Set with all 3x cards to help new player access tournament play.
by Mamut
Published on 30 July 2011 - 04:30:25
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Reply #31 | Published on 12 August 2011 - 08:37:15

It is not gonna happen folks. And you do not need 3 of every card for any of the LCG's. And even if you are so inclined to do so, it is still a hell of a lot cheaper buying 3 of the core sets than buying a play set for any CCG out there. LCG's rule in that regard.

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Reply #32 | Published on 13 August 2011 - 01:55:13
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I would prefer that FFG releases separate expansions associated with order and destruction only similar to what they did with the AGoT expansions. These expansions should not only have new cards but also reprints and three copies of staple faction cards, staple neutral cards and especially cards with errata.

I wish they would specifically fix Traits on cards. I was really disappointed when there was a daemon subtheme for Chaos but no beastmen subtheme. I guess there are too many Beastmen cards now to errata them all, but I hope they release at least one beastmen legend in the future and hopefully beastmen heroes for Chaos.

It seems that the Dwarfs get an engineer subtheme beside the existing slayers in the Capital cycle. If each faction does receive 2 subthemes I wonder what subtheme Chaos will get beside daemons.

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Reply #33 | Published on 13 August 2011 - 04:10:46
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Thanks everyone for participing in this discussion.

For me, after this little brainstorm, the best thing would be idea of Gerson, who said that FFG can make some kind of Core Set Expansion which will consist those cards which were not 3x in core set.

It wont be a big problem for FFG, existing Core Sets still would be needed and ppl who fell in love with this game could just buy that expansion to start more competetive playing with others.

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Reply #34 | Published on 15 August 2011 - 10:16:19

FFG is already on record as saying they would not print an expansion that bumps up the card count to 3 times of each card.

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Reply #35 | Published on 26 August 2011 - 02:18:13

I think FFG should print the cards they only made 1-2 copies of in the core, deluxe and booster packs so that we all would have 3 of each card – perhaps in a deluxe with other cards. 
 

I think they did it with the Innovation tactics card (I am not sure but I think there were one copy in the core rules and then had two copies in one of deluxe expansions).

So pretty please with suger on the top FFG I need more troll vomit.... That sounded sick… But its true
 

Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that two stood against many. That's what's important! Valor pleases you, Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!

Reply #36 | Published on 27 August 2011 - 12:34:38
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I noticed on Upcoming that Assault on Ulthuan is being reprinted and coming out on September. Does anyone know if it is coming with (much needed) errata?

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Reply #37 | Published on 01 September 2011 - 01:51:19

Darth Hideous said:

I think FFG should print the cards they only made 1-2 copies of in the core, deluxe and booster packs so that we all would have 3 of each card – perhaps in a deluxe with other cards. 
 

I think they did it with the Innovation tactics card (I am not sure but I think there were one copy in the core rules and then had two copies in one of deluxe expansions).

So pretty please with suger on the top FFG I need more troll vomit.... That sounded sick… But its true
 

Agree. Print only missing cards in a complement pack.

Ellyrik

Reply #38 | Published on 11 September 2011 - 14:30:36

Aryan said:

I think my case will add something into discussion. I believe I spent more than 200h playing the game with core set, ulthuan and 1st cycle. AND I STOPPED.

I played the game exclusively with my friend and when I had to move to another city i was left with no playmates. It's not that easy to drag new people into strategic card game who are not even familliar with board games. It just seems too much an effort and it's not fun to make a friend because of the game. It should be the other way tound. Play with friends.

Second thing I could think of was joining clubs or shops with cards/board games. Yet these places are most likely visited by fanatics that compete with eachother buying coresets 3x in order to win in their circles. It's no fun to lose all the time or resign of some decks just becausae you lack extra 2 copies.

I'm not going to buy 3 core sets just in order to return to the game and enjoy it completely though i could afford it. I don't feel comfortable with the idea.

I still read this forum, because of many fine memories of the game. Yet won't buy a single battle pack before i feel I own a complete game.

And one more thing: we tried a couple of times to play using octgn, building decks with 3 copies. Once we've tried, we couldn't come back to single core set. FFG should really take this petition into consideration.

Best regards.

 

Actually i'm the sole player in the store. BUT I have plenty of opponents. Invasion allows one to easily make decks for every race. Another player collects all of Ctuhullu. 2-3 player AGoT and far more the Lotr LCG (including me also).
The advantage of the LCG's is, you have everything of everyone and can bring your decks along. Which I do.
So finding an opponent isn't that big a deal. HOWEVER the core set thing is annoying to say the least. And it does turn of a lot of players. Especially since the core sets barely offer balanced or useful decks compared to the longterm. Giving 3x of each card (and more of some basic ones) is crucial.

I actually would love to see some of the 'crucial' neutral cards return in further addons or a seperate little box.

Reply #39 | Published on 12 September 2011 - 02:54:17

I need a special edition with :

 

Warpstone + Village + all 1 / 2 cards from the core set ;).

 

It's hard to get "common" card in LCG, I mean cards that you want in any deck (Warptsone/village/Innovation/ ....). A set (or 2 3 different set) with those "core deck" cards + missing cards in 3 from other set would be nice.

As I will continue to play WH:I i will need such set cause I need those core deck cards in the same way that I need sleeves for my deck.

I have many decks, but can not play theim as I want cause I need to switch warpstone / village from deck to deck and I don't like to play with fake cards :).

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Reply #40 | Published on 12 September 2011 - 20:32:39

I guess a lot of whi have that same problem. It was even uglier before the restricted list but we usually use simple proxies when not playing tournament environment.

But we would surely buy a edition like Shindulus described. It's easy money from economical point of view. It's not about designing new cards, it's just printing them and publish them. I can imagine every 1-set buyer would buy it and it would allow a lot of whi players to join the game that now only play but don't buy packs because of the complicated structure in earlier cycles. 

 

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Reply #41 | Published on 14 September 2011 - 14:07:21

I'm kind of a new player but I fully agree on a pack release that consists of base cards practically needed in every deck like contested village.

I just don't want to buy 6 core sets so that I can build 6 equal faction decks.

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Reply #42 | Published on 22 February 2012 - 12:22:20

 would love to spend some money on this...just do it and take my money FFG ;)

seriously...i want that.

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Reply #43 | Published on 23 February 2012 - 04:43:42
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I like the idea of the petition and i support it.

But here are my thoughts on the discussion. The argument "You don't need 3x copies of every card to enjoy the game!" has been dropped several times and that is not precisely right imho. I think only a small minority of players, that is starting warhammer invasion will not be interested in competetive play, tournaments, deck building etc. - these players just sit in the kitchen once in a while and they wont bother having every card 3x, ok. A vast majority will get to know the game through friends that are already playing on a higher level or they will find their way into competetive play anyhow. The first thing that has been said to me was: "You want 3 copies of everything :(" Also it would be the first thing that'll come into your mind when you see the powerful cards of the core set like troll vomit, verena etc.

And for the argument "you dont need 3x copies of everything to compete" -> of course you do! How are you supposed to even win a single game with your core set only when playing against someone (including the fact that someone is not an idiot) having a complete set. Loosing is not fun :(

My idea, and call me a dumbass if this is totally unthinkable, would be to give players the opportunity of customizing their own individual card packages for a fair price. Of course they should limit the assortment on such cards, say you could only chose cards that were with or before corruption cycle still making you buy the newer battlepacks. But that way everyone having a core set could individually complete the cards he would need. The price for a customized "battle pack" should then be a bit higher then for a normal battle pack. It would be a big effort, but in my eyes a great solution for the problem and also worthwile from an economical point of view.

You may already find dealers on the internet that will sell single cards (i dont know if this is legal), but it's not worth the price to pay 1$ or more for a single card + shipping. Instead FFG should say: Here you can customize a bp of 60 cards with every older card you need for lets say 20$. This would be great for new players, getting into the game, and also for professionals completing the last bits of their sets or getting more copies to have 6x of an important card. Deluxe expansions and newer bp's will still be sold like before.

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Reply #44 | Published on 23 February 2012 - 10:18:59

 Some people here already asked for a "Complement Set" including all missing examples (182 in core set, 120 in corruption cycle, and 65 in assault on ulthuan). I support this idea.

Ellyrik

Reply #45 | Published on 23 February 2012 - 19:42:47
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 I'd rather see non-randomized draft kits with one of's from the core set mixed in.

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